[Esip-citationguidelines] research artifact citation meeting tomorrow

Thu Apr 16 11:15:40 EDT 2020

Thanks for this, Matt. I think we have reasonable connections between the groups, especially because of Dan. However the the connections may not be all that obvious to the community. I think we work at different levels. The research artifact group is still working at a pretty high level of abstraction. Perhaps we should set aside code for the time being as FORCE11 is clearly further along in that area.

I’m increasingly thinking that the RO citation group needs to move to some sort of conclusion.

cheers,

-m.
On 15 Apr 2020, at 19:19, Matt Jones <jones at nceas.ucsb.edu<mailto:jones at nceas.ucsb.edu>> wrote:

Thanks, Dan.  I figured you were in the middle of it.  Thanks for your leadership there. I was just trying to be sure the ESIP citation group was connected to the Force11 group. Maybe that was obvious already to everyone else on this list, and if so, sorry for the extra bandwidth consumed.

Matt

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 4:24 PM Katz, Daniel S <dskatz at illinois.edu<mailto:dskatz at illinois.edu>> wrote:
Hi Matt,

Just to let you know, I've been in a good fraction of these RO citation calls, as a co-lead of the FORCE11 work.

Dan

On Apr 15, 2020, at 5:01 PM, Matt Jones via Esip-citationguidelines <esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>> wrote:

Thanks for organizing the RO citation call, Mark. I'm sorry I can't make it this time, but I want to point out there is a related ongoing discussion and concrete work in these areas of research object citation and credit within the Force 11 Software Citation Implementation working group<https://github.com/force11/force11-sciwg>, and particularly through the CodeMeta task force (see issues<https://github.com/force11/force11-sciwg/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+%22codemeta%22> and schema.org alignment outline<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s2mUS9JjIOq-4-0rZTFNaTO7W9umNF4mCf-uypPwGsQ>).  That group has been working on aligning CodeMeta with schema.org<http://schema.org/>, and proposing specific approaches to, e.g., align the CREDIT taxonomy with e.g., ISO Role codes.  See for example, this GitHub issue in which a specific proposal for using CREDIT<https://github.com/codemeta/codemeta/issues/240> is being discussed. The vision is to also align with the science-on-schema.org<http://science-on-schema.org/> ESIP cluster's recommendations, and we've discussed merging the CodeMeta work with the Science on Schema.org<http://schema.org/> work.

Sorry I can't make the call, but I will definitely look for outcomes and try to feed them forward into the Force11 CodeMeta task force wherever possible.

Best regards,
Matt

Matthew B. Jones
ORCID: 0000-0003-0077-4738<https://orcid.org/0000-0003-0077-4738>
Director of Informatics R&D, National Center for Ecological Analysis and Synthesis<http://www.nceas.ucsb.edu/ecoinfo>
PI, NSF Arctic Data Center<https://arcticdata.io/>
Director, DataONE<https://dataone.org/> program
University of California Santa Barbara

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 12:41 PM Parsons, Mark via Esip-citationguidelines <esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org<mailto:esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>> wrote:
Hi folks,

I hope are safely hunkered, healthy, and connected to those you love.

Meanwhile, we ponder the abstract concept of research artifact citation. I am ill-prepared, but let’s have our call tomorrow.

Basic agenda:

1.  Begin to work through the credit use case — how do the CReDIT, ISO and other attribution descriptions apply to the different research artifacts?

2. Determine if and what we do for an ESIP session proposal. Perhaps a community continuation of the above.

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cheers,

-m.
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