[ESIP-ResearchArtifactCitation] Esip-citationguidelines Digest, Vol 49, Issue 11

Wed Mar 29 14:47:16 EDT 2023

	Hi Diana-

	Got a 404 on your .htm reference for standard identifiers, but I think I managed to pull up the list via the LOC search engine:	

https://id.loc.gov/search/?q=memberOf:http://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/identifiers/collection_identifiers <https://id.loc.gov/search/?q=memberOf:http://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/identifiers/collection_identifiers>


	-Rob


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>   1. Re: RRIDs (Matthew Mayernik)
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> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2023 09:35:00 -0600
> From: Matthew Mayernik <mayernik at ucar.edu>
> To: Diana <diana.ma at hippocampusanalytics.com>
> Cc: "esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org"
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> Subject: Re: [ESIP-ResearchArtifactCitation] RRIDs
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> Thanks Diana, I would be happy to have you involved as we put together our
> session.  It probably won't be until later in April, but I can loop you in
> as we get some ideas together,
> 
> Best,
> Matt
> 
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 5:58?AM Diana <diana.ma at hippocampusanalytics.com>
> wrote:
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>> Matthew,
>> 
>> I would be very interested in working together on a session for the Summer
>> ESIP meeting. Please let me know how I can help!
>> 
>> Recently, I have been focusing on persistent identifier systems. There are
>> many. The Library of Congress maintains a list Standard Identifiers - LC
>> Linked Data Service: Authorities and Vocabularies | Library of Congress
>> (loc.gov) <https://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/identifiers.html>. It was last
>> updated in 2020 and does not contain all of the systems relevant to
>> science. I was thinking of suggesting a review of these systems a the
>> upcoming meeting of the Research Artifact Citation group. It would be
>> useful to identify where there is duplication and where there are holes.
>> 
>> Dan, As a technologist, I understand the difficulty of developing a
>> persistent identifier system for software. I need to catch up on the
>> resources you shared. Thank you for providing them!
>> 
>> Best
>> Diana
>> 
>> 
>> Standard Identifiers - LC Linked Data Service: Authorities and
>> Vocabularies | Library of Congress
>> <https://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/identifiers.html>
>> The Linked Data Service provides access to commonly found standards and
>> vocabularies promulgated by the Library of Congress. This includes data
>> values and the controlled vocabularies that house them. Datasets available
>> include LCSH, BIBFRAME, LC Name Authorities, LC Classification, MARC codes,
>> PREMIS vocabularies, ISO language codes, and more.
>> id.loc.gov
>> 
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>> *From:* Matthew Mayernik <mayernik at ucar.edu>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 28, 2023 4:44 PM
>> *To:* Diana <diana.ma at hippocampusanalytics.com>
>> *Cc:* esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org <
>> esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [ESIP-ResearchArtifactCitation] RRIDs
>> 
>> Hi Diana, all,
>> I am co-PI of a recent NSF Research Coordination Network (RCN) grant
>> focused on PIDs for facilities and instruments. We are still in early
>> phases, but are planning to dig into the benefits and drawbacks of using
>> RRIDs vs DOIs for instruments and facilities. Anita B. is on our project's
>> advisory group. We were already planning to organize a session on this
>> topic for the summer ESIP meeting, so if others are interested, I'd be
>> happy to talk more and work together on a session.
>> 
>> Here is our project web site:
>> https://ncar.github.io/FAIR-Facilities-Instruments/
>> 
>> Best,
>> Matt
>> 
>> Matthew Mayernik
>> Project Scientist & Research Data Services Specialist
>> NCAR Library
>> National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR)
>> University Corporation for Atmospheric Research (UCAR)
>> Boulder, CO
>> mayernik at ucar.edu
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 11:57?AM Daniel Katz via Esip-citationguidelines <
>> esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I've had lots of discussions with Anita B. (from SciCrunch
>> <https://www.scicrunch.com>, which manages RRIDs) about them. We've had
>> fairly strong disagreements about the role of RRIDs for software, but
>> mostly come to the agreement that they are ok to use for software packages
>> (not versions but overall concepts - all versions) in the life sciences.
>> 
>> Other disciplines have other PIDs that they use for software, which is
>> confusing and difficult.
>> 
>> This is unlike data, where DOIs have become standard.
>> 
>> For more on repository and registry practices related to software, see
>> https://scicodes.net/ and https://arxiv.org/abs/2012.13117
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 28, 2023, at 12:41 PM, Diana via Esip-citationguidelines <
>> esip-citationguidelines at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> I am wondering if this group has ever discussed RRIDs? In my brief review,
>> the system appears to target the life sciences, but may be able to address
>> the repository question that we have discussed(?)
>> 
>> 
>> Warm regards
>> Diana
>> 
>> URL:
>> giac058.pdf (silverchair.com)
>> <https://watermark.silverchair.com/giac058.pdf?token=AQECAHi208BE49Ooan9kkhW_Ercy7Dm3ZL_9Cf3qfKAc485ysgAAAuswggLnBgkqhkiG9w0BBwagggLYMIIC1AIBADCCAs0GCSqGSIb3DQEHATAeBglghkgBZQMEAS4wEQQMTjlF90wzqrpBge0yAgEQgIICnjN2vCMlzO71FV8ODdyPuQ0uUxumbJxzh9o2EiLs4WiVxdCM7UnravZ865sTy4TQjPB2YepyGxkRdLN-5CbTfdMguXTV7GMxqJya_xey2g1LJqWsHft4ZJKep7jQq4gfFmwAXEns_i_Qb_unSCeU7ane5QfSPXbHf9wDwcvot_jeVv-D9K1QBlTQelqShSfHJvk5VLzIBVtaC0IodphwUEoADzQtz0gh8i_VoiA7-a-Zx7pktH03va7RbW88SfSHfCJ3auz594soDa37XJO1cLpEDpkO4JgSG6KQQCtps93PnyjTQdHNNHTBoc3lnCH4dVTYacN3zG47MfQAvJQz5PT6sRxBPAo200RB2cO75RXcOWjMCbVyBY9-7AfTuT7-mmHdivRblvn6xZveCeVEF9mzVAJU1agN5aV433riACcM1e4AoxubSnKt9nZt8g7krCcEJccJhcl3E37unbVzMPYeiTL_O-WHb0Ifaipmj6KNAFkl7rubGY-rvIuaND9sq65_1fwngfDI9Qmhbt4asMMcjL5Zd8DeAf1PnFI6B6mbgtYncqMtWf2ZYURKfyToPFm1v67OlCJfhScU9xTHNTKFBWVTXhytuV0LhUvqKWgUw5X1Dmuins3YTPxUTfpUqppdmMNWiSHVKIdZLr0GtaMDFTjSkwCQfjk9CLZVgm1PjbMMlL8bTbwaSzAkpDtOLEcB56GPVj0HoG2FHyRtuzEJy4yp3bdj7j_ThqQ97Qp47bclSyVQTuv6eHiHVLdhQNqgOJ8JSJSkWpB9_IV
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>> EXERPT:
>> RIDs are not for citing ideas or data since well-developed cita tion
>> systems already exist for that. Instead, RRID numbers are created by
>> repositories that distribute the research resource, such as Addgene for
>> plasmids, or the National Xenopus Resource for transgenic frogs.
>> <giac058.pdf>
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>> --
>> Daniel S. Katz
>> Chief Scientist, NCSA
>> Research Associate Professor, CS
>> Research Associate Professor, ECE
>> Research Associate Professor, iSchool
>> University of Illinois
>> (217) 244-8000
>> d.katz at ieee.org or dskatz at illinois.edu
>> https://danielskatz.org
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