[Bessig] Google Plus / Google Drive for BESSIG?

Thu Aug 22 17:35:38 EDT 2013

Fascinating!  Anna's point about NOAA policy on use of someone's NOAA google apps account puts a lot of things in perspective.

I was wondering wny I couldn't do a hangout with someone using their google apps for nonprofits account, and she told me that she was getting this error:

 Google plus is not available for your organization (turningthewheel.org).  Please contact admin to enable this service.

That puzzled me.  But now I can imagine all kinds of reasons why some organizations might not want their people logging in to various apps, social networks, etc essentially with their "work" ID badge on.  Possible issues of seeming to represent the organization, confusion leading to leaks of internal information, etc.

And of course similar issues arise with use of organization email addresses etc.

On the other hand, with a CU google apps for education id, I can join google plus.  So different organizations handle it differently.

Of course, Facebook doesn't even allow anyone to have a separate "work" identity - you get one account, period, as I understand it.  Or is that not true?

So I can imagine folks, or their employers, wanting them to use their private google id for some activities, and/or wanting to allow them to join only certain "federated" google plus communities if that sort of thing ever comes to pass....

And of course, LinkedIn is all about having a work-related identity that is your own.

More complicated than I thought....  And worth some input from some deep thinkers on the topic!

Neal McBurnett                 http://neal.mcburnett.org/

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 03:16:13PM -0600, Anne Wilson wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am thrilled that there is interest in this topic!!
> 
> Actually, we do have a Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Boulder-Earth-and-Space-Science-Informatics-Group-BESSIG/213511898667261
> 
> It's just that nobody likes us :-(!  Well, that's not really an
> accurate characterization...
> 
> I believe a critical piece is someone to champion the effort and put
> some time in to keep things active.  I am very bad at social media
> (and if I've inadvertently offended anyone on Linked In I'm sorry! I
> didn't mean to!).  Honestly, I'm just not a Facebook user.  There, I
> said it.
> 
> I have often wished that the BESSIG had more active "leaders" and
> community activity.  I continue to hope to foster a more distributed
> effort that doesn't depend solely on me.
> 
> Lynn, I agree that a discussion regarding targeting our efforts
> could be valuable.  Immediate goals I see are: spread the word about
> the group, provide a place to meet people with common interests, and
> raise topics for discussion and meeting presentations...  What do
> others think?
> 
> Also, as Anna pointed out in a separate email, I think it's
> important and valuable for people to be able to participate as part
> of their work identity.
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 8/22/13 1:43 PM, Lynn Yarmey wrote:
> >
> >Hi all,
> >
> >Social media for BESSIG is a really interesting proposition! Following up
> >on a few comments yesterday about how overextended we all are, I
> >appreciate Neil's comment about maintenance time. I wonder if there are
> >specific goals we can use to target the conversation and pick appropriate
> >tools?  What exactly are we missing in our current once-per-month in
> >person meetings, webpage, and email list set up? I have seen other groups
> >struggle with managing multiple channels (Facebook, google*, blogs, wikis,
> >LinkedIn groups, etc) and think some up-front discussions of what we are
> >aiming for might help us succeed.
> >
> >Lynn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On 8/22/13 12:24 PM, "Neal McBurnett" <neal at bcn.boulder.co.us> wrote:
> >
> >>I see no reason not to have lots of social media outlets, if there are
> >>people with time to keep them up to date.
> >>
> >>But if we want cool collaboration, I've been more and more impressed with
> >>google plus / google drive / google groups, google hangouts (video) etc.
> >>I suggest setting up a Google Plus "community" for BESSIG.
> >>
> >>And now that CU has rolled out google apps for education campus-wide,
> >>there should be lots of synergy, expertise, more control over privacy,
> >>more flexibility, etc etc.
> >>
> >>On G+ I'm at https://plus.google.com/117291070802201138527/about
> >>
> >>Perhaps we could also look for speakers who can talk about the
> >>intersection of these sorts of general-purpose social networks with
> >>academia, professional networks, consortia, etc.
> >>
> >>Neal McBurnett                 http://neal.mcburnett.org/
> >>
> >>On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:56:00AM -0600, Don Middleton wrote:
> >>>Anne - Thanks for setting up yesterday's great meeting and, in general,
> >>>for getting us all together! Mark, great talk, as always. The thought
> >>>occurred that maybe BESSIG would benefit from a Facebook page. A number
> >>>of us are on there together already. Thoughts?
> >>>
> >>>Don
> >>>
> >>>On Aug 15, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Anne Wilson
> >>><anne.wilson at lasp.colorado.edu> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Hi BESSIG!
> >>>>
> >>>>Have you heard of the Research Data Alliance (RDA)?  Do you know Mark
> >>>Parsons?  Did you know that Mark recently left NSIDC to join the
> >>>Research Data Alliance (RDA)?
> >>>>
> >>>>The RDA is an international alliance of researchers, data scientists,
> >>>and organizations that builds connections and infrastructure to
> >>>accelerate data-driven innovation.
> >>>>
> >>>>Next Wednesday at our August meeting Mark will present the RDA to our
> >>>group.  A complete abstract and other details are available here:
> >>>http://lasp.colorado.edu/galaxy/display/BESSIG/2013/07/22/BESSIG+Meeting+
> >>>Wed%2C+Aug+21%2C+4+-+6+PM.
> >>>>
> >>>>Please join us! Hope to see you there.
> >>>>
> >>>>Anne
> >>>>
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