[Esip-discovery] [Esip-earthcollaboratory] NSF EarthCube program

[Hua, Hook (388C)]

(1) the ESIP Preservation and Stewardship Cluster is beginning to get representation in the W3C Provenance Incubator Group. Should the Discovery and ESC Clusters pursue similar efforts with corresponding W3C activities that Eric mentioned?

(2) It sounds like we've gone full circle now after today's ESIP Discovery telecon.
http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Discovery_Telecon_2011-08-09

We discussed the EarthCube white paper in some more detail with some tangible next steps. The Discovery Cluster's efforts on infrastructure and governance are things to mention, in addition to looking ahead with tackling new things such as adding semantics and faceted search. We also discussed mentioning in the white paper that our community is also exercising governance and transparency by working on the white paper in public mediums such as the ESIP wiki. These are essentially what Ruth had mentioned on this thread in the first place.

The EarthCube webinar presentation provided good context:
http://www.nsf.gov/geo/earthcube/geo-oci-earthcube-webinar-july11-2011.pptx

--Hook


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Subject: Re: [Esip-discovery] [Esip-earthcollaboratory] NSF EarthCube program

I am also interested in this.  I joined the Discovery telecon late today, but there was some talk about this potentially funding specific extensions to the Discovery protocol (Hook mentioned extensions for semantics and faceted search to name a few, I am interested in either of these).  I also find this interesting because the W3C (World Wide Web Consortium) is organizing a workshop for data and services integration (also in October).   A whitepaper for interoperability in EarthCube would likely be relevant to the W3C as well.  I think it would be great for ESIP to get its work exposed to the W3C community.

-Eric

On Jul 29, 2011, at 6:52 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:

> Guys,
>
> I'm interested in collaborating on a white paper for this. Please let me know how I can help.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> On Jul 28, 2011, at 5:38 AM, Ken Keiser wrote:
>
>> Also agree that the ESIP efforts are on track with this topic and should be presented through the whitepapers approach.  This could provide really good visibility for the value of the Federation.  Good stuff.  Thanks to Ruth for pushing this along.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>> On Jul 27, 2011, at 11:20 PM, Ruth Duerr wrote:
>>
>>> I also think that perhaps some of the Earth Science Collaboratory ideas could be included in the infrastructure paper, but it should concentrate heavily on things we actually have people actively working on (i.e., discovery), then perhaps concluding with a look towards the future (collaboratory) ...
>>>
>>> Ruth
>>>
>>> On Jul 27, 2011, at 8:14 PM, Mark A. Parsons wrote:
>>>
>>>> I like this thread. I think two, separate but related, brief white papers could be useful. One on infrastructure, emphasizing the promise of the new cast and aggregate discovery model, the other on governance building from some of the ideas in last weeks telecon.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> -m.
>>>> On 27 Jul 2011, at 6:27 PM, Carol Beaton Meyer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that is a great idea. Our recent strategic review retreat provided some good insights for a white paper.
>>>>>
>>>>> Carol
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/27/11 7:30 PM, "Lynnes, Christopher S. (GSFC-6102)" <christopher.s.lynnes at nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for that summary, Ruth.  Yes, I think we could work on a white paper with an emphasis on the common data infrastructure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Question:  Should we stick to discovery or expand it to include some of the concepts in the Earth Science Collaboratory?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is, that the common "data" infrastructure encompasses tools, services, workflows, analysis results...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or should that be a separate white paper?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the governance, I wonder if a separate, higher-level (i.e., ESIP Federation level) white paper is in order...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Ruth Duerr wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I attended the first of two EarthCube telecon's that NSF is holding prior to the Charette described below.  Here is my summary of that telecon:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The EarthCube program is a very fast track data-related program the goal of which is to move Earth science forward.  It is part of the Cyberinfrastructure Framework for the 21st Century (CIF21).  It isn't aimed at data curation per se, rather aimed at making data more available and useful in an interdisciplinary sense.  The word "inter-workability" - meaning that the data is available, discoverable, and usable by a broad spectrum of users - was used.  There have been 6 NSF reports on this topic which they advise folks to read (there is an EarthCube specific web site at  http://www.nsf.gov/geo/earthcube/index.jsp ).  The gist of the program seems to be based on a recognition that science has moved into a new realm where data is key, as is the need for multi-disciplinary interoperability.  NSF has two goals for the program:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - develop a common data infrastructure (where they mean data access and use)
>>>>>>> - develop a community governance model
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They need these to be "inclusive, responsive, and agile."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a very fast track program.  This fall there will be a "charette(sp?)" - a community meeting supporting both in person and remote participation, where all the ideas everyone has had about how to move forward will be aired and a few picked to move forward as Eager awards (in each of the two areas above), which are $300K each to be awarded roughly 2-3 weeks after the Charette.  Roughly 6 months later, sandpits will be created (proposals of roughly $1-2 Million) for demonstrations of some of the Eager results, etc.; thereafter (at roughly the 1.5 month mark) community agreed to approaches will be selected and built - each center being roughly a $10-15 Million investment in the short term.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the meantime, they are requesting white papers on proposed ways forward on their two goal areas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the Discovery cluster is already working on the beginnings of some of that infrastructure - the discovery piece to be exact.  I really think this cluster should submit a white paper on the promise of the technologies we collectively are working on along with a pitch for our governance process.  What do others think?  Can we pull a short white paper together?  Let me know if you are interested...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ruth
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>>>>>> Christopher Lynnes
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