[Esip-discovery] time for new challenges?

[Ruth Ellen Duerr]

OK, so I have to weigh in here.  This is after all the whole point of service casting hooked to data and the Libre project in general.  I think we made huge strides in this area over the last couple of years.  Yes there are a few issues - crawl frontier management and the data equivalent of page rank being the major issues; but other than that we have demonstrated the ability to find getCapabilities docs, OSDD's, web enabled folders, OAI-PMH catalogs, etc. wherever they are on the web.  And building a Google for data is a major interest of mine.  I've even come up with what I think could be that killer app - though I am totally uninterested in starting a startup, even if Boulder is a hub for doing that (yes, it is a cheap for pay kind of idea).

So, yes this is a good topic; but it is one we are already addressing albeit very slowly in the Discovery cluster.

Ruth

On Dec 19, 2012, at 8:37 AM, "Ramirez, Paul M (388J)" <paul.m.ramirez at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

> Hi Chris,
> 
> Seems like a worthy and tractable cause to help those within the
> organization to understand how to increase the visibility of their web
> applications and sites. One of the first steps could be to understand how
> a search engine views an application or site. For this there are already a
> large variety of tools[1][2][3]. These tools of course are just a portion
> of the solution but could help frame the problem. That said, is this an
> ESIP level issue or more at the level of each organization? Moreover, it
> seems as though understanding one's web presence is one of an ongoing task
> as it would evolve as the search engines evolve and as we bring online
> more web applications. Anyhow just some thoughts, I'm all for supporting
> an activity gets exposure for the great applications that have already
> been built.
> 
> Thanks,
> Paul Ramirez
> Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> (818) 354-1015
> 
> [1] https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/home?hl=en&pli=1
> [2] http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=158587
> [3] http://www.screamingfrog.co.uk/seo-spider/
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/19/12 5:58 AM, "Lynnes, Christopher S. (GSFC-6102)"
> <christopher.s.lynnes at nasa.gov> wrote:
> 
>> Here is one not obviously related to OpenSearch...Faisal Hossain (this
>> year's winner of the Falkenberg!) wrote an editorial in BAMS lamenting
>> the difficulty of discovering useful web applications (e.g., Giovanni)
>> via major search engines by the applications data content:
>> http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/full/10.1175/BAMS-D-12-00035.1
>> 
>> Hook and I have talked with Microsoft, and indirectly with Google, and
>> there appears to be no quick and easy silver bullet.
>> 
>> This problem appears to be widespread, not just Giovanni. Is this
>> something the Discovery Cluster should tackle?
>> --
>> Dr. Christopher Lynnes, NASA/GSFC, ph: 301-614-5185
>> 
>> 
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