[Esip-discovery] time for new challenges?

Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattmann at jpl.nasa.gov
Wed Dec 19 22:06:28 EST 2012

+1 agree with Ruth's comments below, and big +1 for the Libre/Nutch work
going on.


On 12/19/12 9:24 AM, "Ruth Ellen Duerr" <rduerr at Colorado.EDU> wrote:

>OK, so I have to weigh in here.  This is after all the whole point of
>service casting hooked to data and the Libre project in general.  I think
>we made huge strides in this area over the last couple of years.  Yes
>there are a few issues - crawl frontier management and the data
>equivalent of page rank being the major issues; but other than that we
>have demonstrated the ability to find getCapabilities docs, OSDD's, web
>enabled folders, OAI-PMH catalogs, etc. wherever they are on the web.
>And building a Google for data is a major interest of mine.  I've even
>come up with what I think could be that killer app - though I am totally
>uninterested in starting a startup, even if Boulder is a hub for doing
>that (yes, it is a cheap for pay kind of idea).
>So, yes this is a good topic; but it is one we are already addressing
>albeit very slowly in the Discovery cluster.
>On Dec 19, 2012, at 8:37 AM, "Ramirez, Paul M (388J)"
><paul.m.ramirez at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>> Seems like a worthy and tractable cause to help those within the
>> organization to understand how to increase the visibility of their web
>> applications and sites. One of the first steps could be to understand
>> a search engine views an application or site. For this there are
>>already a
>> large variety of tools[1][2][3]. These tools of course are just a
>> of the solution but could help frame the problem. That said, is this an
>> ESIP level issue or more at the level of each organization? Moreover, it
>> seems as though understanding one's web presence is one of an ongoing
>> as it would evolve as the search engines evolve and as we bring online
>> more web applications. Anyhow just some thoughts, I'm all for supporting
>> an activity gets exposure for the great applications that have already
>> been built.
>> Thanks,
>> Paul Ramirez
>> Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> (818) 354-1015
>> [1] https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/home?hl=en&pli=1
>> [2] 
>> [3] http://www.screamingfrog.co.uk/seo-spider/
>> On 12/19/12 5:58 AM, "Lynnes, Christopher S. (GSFC-6102)"
>> <christopher.s.lynnes at nasa.gov> wrote:
>>> Here is one not obviously related to OpenSearch...Faisal Hossain (this
>>> year's winner of the Falkenberg!) wrote an editorial in BAMS lamenting
>>> the difficulty of discovering useful web applications (e.g., Giovanni)
>>> via major search engines by the applications data content:
>>> http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/full/10.1175/BAMS-D-12-00035.1
>>> Hook and I have talked with Microsoft, and indirectly with Google, and
>>> there appears to be no quick and easy silver bullet.
>>> This problem appears to be widespread, not just Giovanni. Is this
>>> something the Discovery Cluster should tackle?
>>> --
>>> Dr. Christopher Lynnes, NASA/GSFC, ph: 301-614-5185
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