[Esip-sustainabledm] Esip-sustainabledm Digest, Vol 17, Issue 17
Nancy Ritchey - NOAA Federal
nancy.ritchey at noaa.gov
Mon Apr 17 17:08:58 EDT 2017
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Title: Return on Investment: The value of data repositories
Abstract:
The government spends billions of dollars to develop systems/instruments to
collect data allowing scientists to study and understand our planet. The
management and preservation of the data tends to be a last minute thought.
Data Repositories by design are equipped to support a portion of these data
based on discipline. However in the era of Big Data and dwindling funding,
Repositories are challenged with providing services to users who were not
an original stakeholders. These users heavily rely on the Repositories to
continue preserving the data and providing increasing services at no cost
to them. The users place a high value on the data and services, yet
Repositories have a difficult time developing accurate and defensible value
added to the data they steward.
A data repository's balance sheet can include measurable direct investments
and generated value, but also costs and benefits that must be estimated
from known indirect measures. In addition, there are
wider impacts that cannot easily be directly measured or even estimated (at
least currently). Moreover, despite a number of studies we still lack a
*core set* of standard metrics for valuing research data services, meaning
that each repository or data center plans and justifies its operations in
relative isolation from the lessons learned from its peers.
This session will explore methods for determining and possibly even
quantifying the return on investment that data centers provide.
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> 1. Re: AGU RoI related session? (Rebecca Koskela)
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> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:12:48 -0600
> From: Rebecca Koskela <rkoskela at unm.edu>
> To: Ruth Duerr <ruth.duerr3 at gmail.com>
> Cc: Anne Wilson <Anne.Wilson at lasp.colorado.edu>,
> "esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org"
> <esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org>, Lesley Wyborn
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> Subject: Re: [Esip-sustainabledm] AGU RoI related session?
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> I understand the frustration but I think the wording needs to be more
> careful - there are decision/policy makers that are concerned
> as we are and we don't want to paint too broad of strokes - possibly "some"
> as an adjective to policy makers?
> I would suspect that there are policy makers as frustrated as we are -
>
> For what it's worth,
> Rebecca
>
>
> Executive Director, DataONE
> University of New Mexico
> 1312 Basehart SE
> Albuquerque, NM 87106
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> Email: rkoskela at unm.edu
> Cell: (505) 382-0890
> Fax: (505) 246-6007
>
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Ruth Duerr via Esip-sustainabledm <
> esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Anne,
> >
> > I guess I am having problems with the idea for this session on two
> fronts:
> >
> >
> > 1. After having mentally altered the sentence "But making that
> > argument clearly and unambiguously is a challenge? to read ?"But
> > making that argument clearly and unambiguously is a challenge in this
> > era where facts have no value to current decision-makers? I am having
> a
> > hard time trying to figure out what the point is at the moment. Yes,
> that
> > is a very bad attitude; but one that is challenging me.
> > 2. I?ve also seen the many agencies and science programs go the route
> > explored at the ROI session at the last ESIP meeting, a route that
> seems to
> > be pretty popular at the moment. That is to come up with a list of
> societal
> > benefits, for each identify the data/information needed to achieve
> that
> > benefit, and the precursor tools, models, data, etc. needed to create
> that
> > data/information, and chase that backwards through the value chain to
> the
> > repositories, etc. that acquire, preserve and distribute that data.
> Now
> > this only works for things that have immediate impact which is a
> problem
> > for most pure research data. How to handle the rest?
> >
> >
> > In any case, at least I am thinking about it even if I have nothing
> useful
> > to add at the moment.
> >
> > Ruth
> >
> > On Apr 17, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Anne Wilson via Esip-sustainabledm <
> > esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > There was a loud silence in response to my request for help with a title
> > and abstract for an RoI related session. I will try again to stimulate
> > some input by drafting a title and abstract, which is below. (I hope
> > this doesn?t reinforce more silence! )
> >
> > I did recall that last year, though abstracts describing the session were
> > used in soliciting abstracts, in the end only the title of the session
> was
> > provided in the meeting program. I am assuming it will be the same this
> > year. So, the title can matter.
> >
> >
> > Title: How much is a data center worth? Determining the value and
> > contributions of a data center
> >
> > Abstract:
> >
> > Data centers are being asked to provide better access and services for
> > more and more datasets over time, with a commensurate increase in the
> > number of users relying on those data centers for essential data and
> > services. The difficulty is compounded by flat, inconsistent and/or
> > unreliable funding for data centers.
> >
> > It seems as if these data services are valuable to their users and to
> > society, and may even show a positive return on investment. But making
> > that argument clearly and unambiguously is a challenge. Data center
> > expenses and contributions range from easily measurable direct
> investments
> > and use, to stated values, to estimated values, and finally to wider
> > impacts that can not be directly measured.
> >
> > This session will explore methods for determining and possibly even
> > quantifying the value that data centers provide, and/or measuring the
> > return they provide.
> >
> >
> >
> > Please provide comments and feedback. Thank you!
> >
> > Anne
> >
> >
> > From: Esip-sustainabledm on behalf of "esip-sustainabledm at lists.
> > esipfed.org"
> > Reply-To: Anne Wilson
> > Date: Friday, April 14, 2017 at 8:32 AM
> > To: Corinna Gries, Shelley Stall, Kerstin Lehnert, Nancy Ritchey - NOAA
> > Federal, "esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org"
> > Subject: Re: [Esip-sustainabledm] AGU RoI related session?
> >
> > Great, Corinna, thank you!
> >
> > That makes four: Anne Wilson, Kerstin Lehnert, Nancy Ritchie, Corinna
> > Gries. Is that correct? (And, we are indeed all the
> esip-sustainabledm
> > list, correct? Co-chairs, please let me know if you?re not on that list.
> > I would prefer to simply send to the list?)
> >
> > Step 2 would be to create the title and abstract. From my prior email:
> >
> >
> > > The theme for ESSI (Earth and Space Science Informatics) this year is
> > something like, ?Shortening the time to science?.
> > >
> > > With that in mind, session titles might be something like
> > >
> > > - how to value the contributions of data centers?
> > > - how do data centers shorten the time to science?
> > > - data centers and their impacts
> > > - shortening the time to science through robust data centers
> > > - data center sustainability: RoI, funding, etc?
> > > - ??
> >
> >
> > Co-chairs, et al, suggestions for titles/abstracts?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Anne
> >
> > From: Corinna Gries
> > Date: Friday, April 14, 2017 at 7:23 AM
> > To: Anne Wilson, Shelley Stall, Kerstin Lehnert, "
> > esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org"
> > Subject: Re: [Esip-sustainabledm] AGU RoI related session?
> >
> > HI Anne,
> >
> > no problem. A session at AGU would be a great continuation of our
> > discussion and may bring in some more perspectives. I'll help organizing.
> >
> > Corinna
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* Anne Wilson <Anne.Wilson at lasp.colorado.edu>
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 12, 2017 5:14 PM
> > *To:* Shelley Stall; Kerstin Lehnert; esip-sustainabledm at lists.
> esipfed.org;
> > Corinna Gries
> > *Subject:* Re: [Esip-sustainabledm] AGU RoI related session?
> >
> > Thanks, Kerstin! I?ll count you as one. I would love to see 2 others
> > commit to organizing the session, that would be a strong go vote and
> > hopefully require less from each person.
> >
> > Thanks, Shelley, for adding Corrina. Corrina, my apologies!
> >
> > Anne
> >
> > From: Esip-sustainabledm on behalf of "esip-sustainabledm at lists.
> > esipfed.org"
> > Reply-To: Shelley Stall
> > Date: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 2:31 PM
> > To: Kerstin Lehnert, "esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org", Corinna
> Gries
> > Subject: Re: [Esip-sustainabledm] AGU RoI related session?
> >
> > Anne,
> >
> > And Corrina Gries had an interest in this as well. Adding her here to
> make
> > sure she sees this.
> >
> > Shelley
> >
> > On 4/12/17, 4:27 PM, "Esip-sustainabledm on behalf of Kerstin A Lehnert
> > via Esip-sustainabledm" <esip-sustainabledm-bounces at lists.esipfed.org on
> > behalf of esip-sustainabledm at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Anne,
> >
> > I am actually right now at a workshop on 'Repository Collaboration'
> > where we are talking a lot about ROI. I strongly support the theme of
> > this session. It is fundamental for sustained support from funders and
> > the science community, especially these days.
> >
> > I would be happy to help if there are not enough co-conveners.
> >
> > Kerstin
> >
> >
> > <image651160.png>
> > Shelley Stall
> > ASD, Enterprise Data Mgmt Prog
> > <image121427.png> *202?777?7307* <202-777-7307>
> > <image747784.png> *SStall at agu.org* <SStall at agu.org> |
> <image170555.png>
> > *www.agu.org* <http://www.agu.org/>
> > <image302373.png>
> > 2000 Florida Ave, NW , Washington , DC 20009
> >
> > <image165278.png> <https://www.facebook.com/AmericanGeophysicalUnion>
> > <image242781.png> <https://twitter.com/theAGU>
> > <image274821.png> <https://www.linkedin.com/groups/2196290>
> > <image135116.png> <https://www.youtube.com/user/AGUvideos>
> > <image127978.png> <https://www.instagram.com/americangeophysicalunion/>
> >
> > UPCOMING MEETINGS AND EVENTS:
> > *19 April: 2017 Fall Meeting Session Proposal Submission Deadline*
> > <https://fallmeeting.agu.org/2017/session-proposals/>
> > *22 April: 2017 March for Science, Washington, D.C.*
> > <https://www.facebook.com/March4ScienceAGU>
> > *3 May: 2018 Ocean Sciences Meeting Session Proposal Submission Deadline*
> > <http://osm.agu.org/2018/session-proposal-overview/>
> > *11?15 December: 2017 Fall Meeting, New Orleans, Louisiana*
> > <http://fallmeeting.agu.org/>
> > *11?16 February: 2018 Ocean Sciences Meeting, Portland, Oregon*
> > <http://osm.agu.org/2018/>
> > On 4/12/17 16:20 PM, Anne Wilson via Esip-sustainabledm wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > At RDA I received a bit of encouragement from Lesley Wyborn to submit a
> > ROI and/or data center sustainability session proposal for the American
> > Geophysical Union?s annual meeting in December. I know some of us are
> very
> > familiar with AGU?s annual meeting, while I think others are not. The
> > proposal deadline is a week from today. The meeting is in New Orleans
> this
> > year, roughly the 2nd week of December.
> > >
> > > The theme for ESSI (Earth and Space Science Informatics) this year is
> > something like, ?Shortening the time to science?.
> > >
> > > With that in mind, session titles might be something like
> > >
> > > - how to value the contributions of data centers?
> > > - how do data centers shorten the time to science?
> > > - data centers and their impacts
> > > - shortening the time to science through robust data centers
> > > - data center sustainability: RoI, funding, etc?
> > > - ??
> > >
> > > Is anyone out there interested in co chairing a session? I don?t really
> > have the energy to be the sole champion of this effort, so would probably
> > not do it without other interest and support.
> > >
> > > Lots of ??!
> > >
> > > Anne
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > Doherty Senior Research Scientist
> > Director, Interdisciplinary Earth Data Alliance
> >
> > Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory
> > Columbia University
> > Palisades, NY, 10964
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